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What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:40 pm
by Elaura
Here are some things to take into consideration before buying Morrowind:

  1. Morrowind is a ten year old game with a ten year old engine and ten year old graphics.  You are very unlikely to be satisfied with it "right out of the box" compared to what you're used to.
  2. The way we improve Morrowind is by using Third Party Programs (3PP) and mods.
  3. Do not bother to buy anything but the Game of the Year (GOTY) version.  The expansion packs add scripting options, not to mention the Official Patches, that are required for most modern 3PP and mods.
  4. Morrowind Graphics Extender (MGE) is the standard 3PP for improving graphics.
  5. MGE will only run with the CD and Steam versions of MW GOTY.  If you cannot get it either on CD or Steam (i.e. downloaded from Gamefly), the Securom anti-piracy DRM packaged with the downloaded version of Morrowind will prevent you from using MGE. This does NOT mean you can't use mods, or make your game look better, but MGE and MGE XE won't work.
  6. If you have Windows Vista or Windows 7 64-bit Operating Systems (OS), be aware that the default security features and permissions will make it more difficult to use 3PP and mods if Morrowind is installed inside a system-created directory.  This means the default directories, i.e. Program Files, Program Files (86) and My Documents should be avoided.  Installing to a user created directory, such as C:\Games\ will result in fewer problems and may make it unnecessary to run game related files as administrator or turn User Access Control (UAC) off.  Instructions for installing Steam outside of the system created default directory: Moving a Steam Installation and Games
  7. You cannot run MGE with the Steam Overlay enabled.  Yes, this really does mean you won't know how many hours you've played, sorry.  Here's how to do it:
    • Launch Steam and click on the "Settings" button. Click on the "In-Game Settings" tab.
    • Uncheck the box next to "Enable Steam Community In-Game" and click OK.
    • Disable the Steam Overlay on specific games only by right-clicking on the game title, click on "Properties" and uncheck "Enable Steam Community In-Game" in the "General" tab.
  8. Mod recommendations lists are just that, recommendations, made by people who have their own personal likes and dislikes.  If a mod doesn't suit you, don't use it.
  9. All mods and 3PP were made by real people, for free.  These people are still among us; don't just show up on the scene making demands and complaining as if you had to pay your hard-earned money for them.  For that matter, refer to #1.  You probably paid less than 10USD for this game, if you don't like it, get a refund and go play something else.

Disclaimer: The above is my personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Fliggerty, GHF staff in general, or of the little green men that have been following me all day (unless they agree with me).


EDITED for clarity for the criminally inclined.

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:49 pm
by Leonardo
Good information about Morrowind Elaura.  :sheo:

There is another thing to think about games that requires Steam and that's about the My Document directory, because most games is designed to use My Document directory for gamesaves (\My Document\My Games\Morrowind\Saves).

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:57 pm
by Elaura
Elaura wrote:[*]If you have Windows Vista or Windows 7 64-bit Operating Systems (OS), be aware that the default security features and permissions will make it more difficult to use 3PP and mods if Morrowind is installed inside a system-created directory.  This means the default directories, i.e. Program Files, Program Files (86) and My Documents should be avoided.


:D

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:00 pm
by Kiteflyer61
Couldn't have said it better myself. :D

Nice post.  :punkrock:




KF

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:06 pm
by Leonardo
Not quite correct Elaura.  Because both Civ4 (retail and perhaps Steam) and Civ5 (only Steam) is actually installed by default in \My Document\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 or in \My Document\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5 plus resp gamesaves in their Saves folder.

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:09 pm
by Elaura
Leo, what part of "This means the default directories, i.e. Program Files, Program Files (86) and My Documents should be avoided." do you not understand?  We're talking about Morrowind, not Civilization.

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:13 pm
by Leonardo
Of course I know what you mean, but I was referring to Steam and how that works with installed games.  My point is that you shall avoid \My Documents directory unless it's the default directory for a game installation.  :smile:

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:15 pm
by No One
For people getting the game AFTER ES: IV or V: Do not think that this is a game where you can just smack anything around with your sword after leaving the census and excise office. Skills not only determine how much damage you do, but (and IMO) more importantly it determines IF you are going to hit and successfully cast a spell at whatever you are fighting. In other words, play slow and steady until you get the feel of the game and get a reliable primary weapon skill, otherwise you are going to get frustrated and die a lot.  :banghead:

Oh P.S. If you are going to be trying to kill ghosts, skeletons, daedra, etc. you might want to invest in a silver or enchanted sword, because iron and steel ain't gonna cut it. :sheo:

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:41 pm
by Elaura
Thanks, NO One.  Good advice for the new player.

Leo, I appreciate the fact that Steam works just fine in the default directories for *other games* but it doesn't for Morrowind and that's what we're talking about here.  I did not say "shall", I did not say "must", I said "should".  Please don't confuse the issue by bringing up other games.  This thread is specifically about Morrowind.

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:23 pm
by Fliggerty
Stickied! :sheo:

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:13 pm
by Elaura
YAY!

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:12 pm
by Letrune
Only one thing I believe one should know:
-No achievements.

I heard someone complaining about a cool free online game needing this... And I loved the tips, that is also helpful for me, who love the game. :)

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:17 pm
by No One
Elaura wrote: MGE will only run with the CD and Steam versions of MW GOTY.  If you cannot get it either on CD or Steam, the Securom anti-piracy DRM will prevent you from using MGE. This does NOT mean you can't use mods, or make your game look better, but MGE and MGE XE won't work.


Does that mean that MGE will not work if you buy the game on Gamefly, or another place that you can buy and digitally download the game?

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:32 pm
by Elaura
Correct, No One.  It will not work with downloaded Morrowind if you get it from anywhere other than Steam.  Gamefly and others use the Securom DRM and MGE can't get around it.

Re: What people should know before buying Morrowind

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:00 pm
by Leonardo
Here is more information about Morrowind.

1.  You must install this patch if you buy Morrowind on Steam, because without it you can't use the Construction Set.
2.  This is only for Vista, Windows 7 users and it doesn't matter if you have a 32bit or a 64bit version, because without this patch you can't read the helpfile in the Construction Set (scroll down a little).
3.  Morrowind will run on both FAT32 or NTFS, but it's recommended that you install Morrowind on a NTFS partition if you have Steam version or running Vista/Windows7.

Compared to later TES games Morrowind can be played with quite old video cards and still have a decent graphics.