Elder Scrolls V, Planned For Release in Late 2011

[praiseargonia]

I hope it takes place in summerset isles. The Altmer are my favourite race.


I'm keeping my fingers crossed for A daggerfallesque game with some morrowind elements.


I just want my huge dungeons back  

[Tes96 Modding Pelagiad Expanded interiors]

I just read through this entire thread; some pretty good & funny ideas in here. Do you guys think that TESV will have better graphics than Crysis Warhead? I would think it would since it was released in September 2008 and TESV will be released in 2010/11 most likely, though I'm hoping they'll release it in 2012/13 since I've yet to play Oblivion and could use the extra time.

What do you guys think TESX will be like? It probably won't be released until around 2040. God, by then I'll be 57! By then, computers will be so advanced that the game will be of the entire planet of Nirn and each province would be bigger in size than Daggerfall, with graphics/physics that can't be distinguished between reality and CG and perhaps even, it will be in virtual reality. I wonder if the we'll be able to cast spells that will let us travel in space without exploding or suffocating so we can venture out into the Mundus and Aetherius.  

But hey, thirty years ago they said we'd have flying cars and time machines.... and look at where we are.  

[Arkitekt]

Haha, funny post tes.

I'm curious to see some teasers whenever Bethseda gets around to posting some.  I would have to say that I'm not too concerned about a new TES game.  Like everyone's been saying Morrowind has managed to keep us captivated this long...nothing will keep us from it!

At any rate, good to know what they're up to in their tall tower...Bethseda that is.

[Marbred]

Fallout3 wasnt all that great.

Uh, it was a lot better than Oblivacrap.

[Tes96 Modding Pelagiad Expanded interiors]

Arkitekt, I still play Daggerfall and I got it back in 1995 (demo, that is, and I still have that, too). So yeah, I'm sure I'll be playing Morrowind twenty years from now even.

Do you guys think that Bethesda will eventually just release a mammoth construction set and let the modders and gaming community build their own interpretation of Tamriel/Nirn? Like, a completely open game that allows us to do anything in it.

I'm hoping that TESV is easier to mod than Oblivion. Bethesda knows that we like to mod the games so I'm wondering why they don't make a more open system for us with which to tamper. Know what I mean, jellybean?

[Jac Making my way back]

First question: No. Not unless it makes them money.

Second question: see the answer to the first question.

And don't call me jellybean.

[Tes96 Modding Pelagiad Expanded interiors]

May I call you Apple-dumplin?  

No. You can call me Jac or "Hey, you!" if you prefer.  -Jac

[Dragon_Lance ...on a reconnaissance mission]

Name-calling? Can I play?

Whatcha doin' theeere, Muffin Mix?  

Seriously though, I wonder what kind of system drain this game is going to take on modern computer systems. Graphic intensity seems to be an issue even with MW. Will this game still be reliant mainly on the Central Processing Unit?  

[Naajaw walking the Earth.]

Ouch, jeez guys. Both Ark and tes were very close, but neither of them get necromancy points. 'Has to be a month-old thread :/

[dirkleton]

Fallout3 wasnt all that great.

Uh, it was a lot better than Oblivacrap.

Yeah, but it still wasn't good

[Lady Godiva]

*note to self, play fallout 3*

Jac is nothing like a Jellybean, for the record. If I were going to suck on him, I'd think more like Chef from Southpark's "chocolate salty balls" than sweet sweet jellybeans. Haha.

(For you dirty minded children out there, at least those few dirty minded children deprived of seeing South Park, 'chocolate salty balls' are in fact, a food item, nothing more and nothing to do with the fact that Chef is African American)

[Michael Valentine Trying not to creep Elaura out. Possibly failing I think.]

Ta ha. Ta ha. Ta ha.

[Tes96 Modding Pelagiad Expanded interiors]

I'm looking more towards 2011, I hope. I won't have a monster computer until around 2011. So bethsoft should put it on hold until then. haha

On the other hand, if it comes out in late 2010, then that'll give all those modders time to make BB, BH and all the other graphically pleasing jibberish that we all so enjoy.
I guess TESV is supposed to be in Skyrim.

[Deathstalker13 OK]

Thread revived. Where's my necro point?

Anyway, I actually hope that is DOES take pace in skyrim. The nords really don't have much of a history, other than fighting elves. (seriously, invading morrowind, losing morrowind, taking solthsiem from the falmer, Re-Invading Morrowind etc. Nord must not like elves.) So I would love to see what Bethsoft comes up with for the storyline. Lets see, Rebellious Nords, Morrowind under siege, no emporer to tell them what to do... I think I smell another "Uderfrykte" mini-quest somewhere in there.

[Chazz of Blades]

I, the God of Lore and Necromancy/Conjuration grant you a Necromancy point.

[Michael Valentine Trying not to creep Elaura out. Possibly failing I think.]

Ta ha. Ta ha. Ta ha.

[starwarsgal9875]

With what Bethesda did with Fallout 3, I'd say TES:V will be pretty amazing, though I do hope they don't pull a "Fallout 3 with swords" like how they pulled an "Oblivion with guns" for Fallout 3. I also wish that they'd stop using the Gamebyro engine.. there are better engines than it, really.

1024-2048 textures! In Oblivion and Fallout 3 it was possible to adjust "texture size" in the graphics properies, but the largest they'd go to was 512, I'm not sure if this is true with Fallout 3, but the textures still looked bad. Oh, another thing, stop attaching normalmaps to EVERYTHING, everything doesn't need normalmaps, since normalmaps can make stuff appear shiny, it's annoying seeing them on some things, rugs aren't shiny!

I'd also like it if they stuck some of the good parts of their past games into it, like Morrowind and Daggerfall, but also some stuff like Travels (which I've actually never played, but they did make an Oblivion DLC for the dwemer orrery based on the reguard orrery, so I can hope).

And yet another wish, I'd say not to go for a whole province this time, go back to Daggerfall, or Fallout 3 (shorter time difference) where the game is concentrated on one smaller area, but is realistically scaled (Morrowind was scaled down a lot, but Oblivion was worse).

[Elaura]

Um, someone seems to have deleted the references to TESV on the wikipedia site.  There is a reference to FO4 in 2010, however.

I'm thinking the best way to predict what the next Beth game is would be to look at marketing trends.  What are the highest grossing games out there right now?  They already know every current modder and TES fan *WILL BUY* anything they put out there just to see what it is.  They will develop and market in order to get the attention of folks who don't already have the series, in order to get them to buy the previously released games.  I seriously doubt they'll be considering the wants/wishes of their current fanbase except in improving areas where market research has proved they screwed up.

They actually shot themselves in the foot in this manner when they released MW.  They didn't market it in a way that encouraged folks to go back and buy Arena and Daggerfall, which they should have.  You know, releasing a boxed set with all the TES games.  I think they've probably realized their error on that and won't repeat it.

As for time frames, the company has grown a bit and I'm sure there are plenty of developers to manage all the projects they have; however, since it's already August and the furor over TESV hasn't grown much, they may be feeling the crunch of the recession and scaled back a little.

In any case, money makes the world go 'round and if you follow the money-making trends, you'll find the next Beth game.

[Froderick]

Given that Bethesda, whether we like it or not, is primarily committed to console development, I doubt we will see any great graphical leap forward until the next generation of consoles is released. With the economy still tanking I doubt that next generation of consoles will be released before 2012, if not much later. Hopefully this means that TESV will focus more on story and characterization rather than simply dazzling new tech that does not improve gameplay or immersion. I just hope that TESV returns to Morrowinds's diverse and conflicting factions. One of the biggest immersion breakers for me with TES4 was how you could head every faction in the game no matter how absurd that was in reality.

[Deathstalker13 OK]

Personaly, I just hope that the Story line is less Linear-direct than OB.

And That they don't just leave out all the good stuff and make it available only as DLC "merchandise."

[starwarsgal9875]

Personaly, I just hope that the Story line is less Linear-direct than OB.

Have you played Fallout 3's main quest? They pulled a Daggerfall with it, there's tons of ways you can finish it, and the actual questline itself was pretty fantastic in my opinion, although a little too short.

One thing I'd really like them to change though is making all sorts of factions joinable, but say having restrictions onto your combination like with Morrowind's great houses. The speech system has been significantly improved in Fallout 3 (although I just wish they'd go back to text, and it does seem like a lot of a KotOR ripoff, yet it was great), so we can only image that their skills are growing.

As an RPG, I'd say Fallout 3 is amazing, and it even really hits a modded Morrowind in many areas, Morrowind still doesn't have an improved diolauge system (as in adding dynamic conversation, speach successes, etc.) with mods, and a lot of it's roleplayability in terms of quests is really limited. However, Fallout 3 challenging a modded Morrowind is a good thing, since it only means that future Bethesda games (like maybe TES: V) will be even better.

[Deathstalker13 OK]

I was talking about Oblivion, not Fallout 3. Think before you rant please.

[Tes96 Modding Pelagiad Expanded interiors]

Thread revived. Where's my necro point?

Anyway, I actually hope that is DOES take pace in skyrim. The nords really don't have much of a history, other than fighting elves. (seriously, invading morrowind, losing morrowind, taking solthsiem from the falmer, Re-Invading Morrowind etc. Nord must not like elves.) So I would love to see what Bethsoft comes up with for the storyline. Lets see, Rebellious Nords, Morrowind under siege, no emporer to tell them what to do... I think I smell another "Uderfrykte" mini-quest somewhere in there.

Well what if the storyline is a new quarrel? Maybe because of the death of the Emperor, the empire began to crumble and Khajiit and Argonians teamed up with Sload of Thrass and the Tsaesci & Ka Po’Tun of Akavir and they all began to try and create a new empire that was ruled not by man nor mer, but by beastfolk! Hmmm, maybe that might be a little "out there". But I sure would love to see what Sload would look like in the game.

[Painkiller_Rider Back In Black]

I'm waiting for some insider leaks on the matter, but until then I see the truth in what Elaura and Froderick had said above (with a small addition): certainly will be at some certain milestone in development, but will likely wait for a next gen console (probably MS) to release. It was done both with Morrowind and Oblivion and I believe it will happen the same with TESV. What pisses me off in this whole matter is that, if the story will be indeed repeated, then we will have again a bloody console game ported to PC! And, if that was not extremelly annoying with MW (my computer in 2002-2003 was about the same as an Xbox), well, it was really outrageous in Oblivion, which I could play on a bloody laptop, with its little shitty enbedded video chip - hence the low-res textures, blocky meshes, use of CPU over GPU, etc. It took the community 4 long years to turn Oblivion in a good looking game, but it is still limping, due to the engine limitations... Arrrghh!  

As much as I love TES series (with MW being probably my all-time favourite game, out of probably over a thousand played in nearly 20 years), I must say they should finally take a hint and be a bit braver about this issue - and finally make a PC GAME! I look back at other favourites and I see revolutionary games such as M&M (6&7), Lands of Lore 3, Wizardry 8, which tried to make powerful games, only for PC. Oh well, most of them failled, probably exactly due to that (or a bad marketing campaign... ), but I will always remember with love the Lands of Lore 3 graphics, which in '99 were already almost better than MW's was to be in 2002 - hell, I was crawling at max 10fps through that game, but I wonder how would it have ran on my 2002 machine...

I honestly don't care much about where the next episode of TES will happen, Skyrim, Sunset Isles, etc., doesn't matter - you can flame me all you want, I thought that the OB story and MQ were OK, though much weaker than MW, so I trust Beth will again come up with something nice in that respect. I'm rather worried about what I said above... Oh well, live and see, we will...  

Cheers,
PKR.

[Elaura]

Nobody's going to flame you for your opinions, PKR.  You're right, in *my* opinion.  A PC game is a PC game and porting a console game sadly limits it.  I don't have to go far to prove it, either.  After playing OB on XBOX, my brother and nephew got so frustrated with the possibilities being unrealized , they actually went out and bought it for PC.  It was a whole new game for them after that; they entered the realm of mods and never went back.

The trouble is, Beth doesn't make a dime off what the modders do and people complain about paying for DLC.  Where's the motivation in developing a game for the modding community?  Any business markets to the mainstream, not the "fanatics", the already have those in their pocket.  Look at movies, such as Lord of the Rings.  Uh, not much profit in playing to the people who already loved the books . . . it had to be appealing to everyone to be a blockbuster.  The result?  It got a fantastic mainstream reception, made a bundle of money and the 'purists' sat around online complaining that Peter jackson butchered the story.  If they made The Hobbit, I guarantee they wouldn't be taking the opinions of those people to heart any more than Beth is listening to the modding community.    They'll play to the masses.

That said, it may be people's tendency to point out what's wrong, but I'm with you.  Beth made two good, fun game series with wonderful worlds and they were nice enough to at least give players the opportunity to mod for them.  For all those complaining about Beth games not living up to their potential, look at this forum.  We're still here, still playing, and still modding; Beth must have done something right.  I just hope whatever it is they've done, they keep doing it; my dream is that they do it better, no matter what the story, location, or engine.