Valenvaryon seems unfinished

[dietbob196045]

I had nothing specific in mind at this time, basically just clutter for the player to pick-up and use, for now I'll go with your suggestions

As far as your link -  I've run into those kind of posts before, but it's not the same kind of radius I'm referring to  I'm sure you know that

Now for something completely different

We have discussed mostly regarding the Tunnels and the Valenvaryon Underground Sections, for a moment though I'd like to offer my concept of the Dwemer Outpost Section -  i would simply like to build 2 rooms, 2 tower sections (Interiors) and a By-Way (passage connecting the 2 areas)  The idea is the Exterior of the Outpost will have 2 towers, the top portion visible, the rest will be covered by ash, additionally some Dwemer Ruin misc rubble    Inside (access through the tunnels) will be the 2 rooms and the tower interiors which will be heavily damaged due to age and the land shift from the Eruption and the passage between the 2, this is a simple outpost, long forgotten and should be full of misc items left by the previous owners (un-looted)

As seen- my idea for the by-pass    

let me know


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Your suggestion for the Dwemer Outpost sounds good to me, so why not keep that and perhaps later we you can add something or change a thing or two if necessary.  

Although, the Dwemer bridge should have few damaged spots here and there on both sides not much though, but at least something that will stick to lore just to show what had happen in the past.

[dietbob196045]

Good Deal

The bridge will have damage, I had been working on a few pieces for that purpose  Hopefully they will turn out as I hope, we shall see


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Good Deal

The bridge will have damage, I had been working on a few pieces for that purpose  Hopefully they will turn out as I hope, we shall see

I can't wait to test that in-game, so when you're ready then let me know.  

[dietbob196045]

Good Deal

The bridge will have damage, I had been working on a few pieces for that purpose  Hopefully they will turn out as I hope, we shall see

I can't wait to test that in-game, so when you're ready then let me know.  

I may be able to send you a more up to date version after the weekend, I have worked on several other area's, not able to focus on one thing  
but as your aware none of them will be completely finished... and I haven't gotten to the "changing my mind"  part yet.

Speaking of Tunnels, here is the tunnel leading to the Dwemer Section, minus the terrain features and clutter
This section splits off in 2 directions, the other doorway will connect to the tunnel which will end up at Ebernanit Daedric Shrine

Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

That tunnel section is awesome and I really like long walk in a cave or in a dungeon e.g Nammu, but my real favorite is the Mannammu cave.  Not long though, but have decent loot especially where the boss is.  


Maybe add a bunch of bandits e.g Orc's, Nords, Dunmer, Imperials, Redguards, Bretons (mostly for their spell casting ability like summoning daedra).  How many bandits there could be let say 20-30 perhaps even up to 40 bandits?

All of these bandits are split up in small numbers of 3-5 bandits that's placed here and there across the entire tunnel section.

Of course the entrance and exit needs to have some space, so one can actually repair the gear before moving on.

Sounds good?

[dietbob196045]

Glad you like it, I had thought of adding a few side chamber to it as well

I was thinking Goblins...  The secret caves have been abandoned for centuries, it would be logical that Goblins would have discovered the tunnel system and being of low intelligence (most of them) they probably would not have tried to mess with the barriers   Orc's on the other hand would have as well as any of the other races bandits or otherwise.  I had intended on adding Goblins to part of this system, hence the Goblin Dung Ingredient

Either way is good for me

I'll work on it some more


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

No, not Goblins as it reminds too much about how it's in Oblivion.

But, if you still think a creature would patrol the area is a good idea then why not add the Ghoul creature in some spots in the tunnel.

[dietbob196045]

No, not Goblins as it reminds too much about how it's in Oblivion.

But, if you still think a creature would patrol the area is a good idea then why not add the Ghoul creature in some spots in the tunnel.

I hear ya-  didn't think about that, but Ghouls I can go with  

I shall continue on  


EDIT:  I had posted an image of a cave system I wanted to use for the Daedric Entry point but the post dis-appeared  ????   It's a cave that I was building for another Mod and had never finished it nor did I even remember I had it------anyways I'll re-post it later, however running thru it in game I found 2 issues  one was collision problems
The cave had to be re-sized and because of the large scale the collision didn't work correctly in a small area and the player fell through, that one is fixeable, but the bigger issue is again because of the scaling of the cave, at some angles it dis-appears, that one I can't fix, so I need to re-group and come up with a more usable cave
easy but time consuming

Enjoy
Dietbob

[dietbob196045]

Here is the cave I was referring to- I did fix the issues with collision and features blinking out

I also made a chest for this particular cave

The cave is very detailed, something better seen in game

Enjoy
Dietbob

[dietbob196045]

And we have our first spirit to summon,  House Dagoth Chimer Battlemage

I will make an appropriete battle mage armor for him

I'll do the Dwemer Spirit next ........  For the Daedra ... since they are spirits in a sense, why not a Daedra Priest of Old , Ebernanit is a Mehrunes Dagon Temple
so if we do that, I will also come up with a nice Dagon Robe


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Sorry for the delay.  I've been playing Star Trek Timelines (free to play on Steam, but if you want to get somewhere in the game then it will cost money) a lot lately.

The cave looks good, so keep that and it's also a good idea to have a chest for a cave.  But why not have a chest for each HQ location that has an unique item and have all three it will give the player a very useful item.

I also need to point out that looking at a picture for a cave like yours aren't the same thing as test it in-game, so I would like to test that cave perhaps via the console without having a connection from the interior I already tested.


As for the Chimer spirit, I wouldn't go with a battle mage armor since it is a heavy armor and the Dark Elf's aka Dunmer are known for being a superior swordmen in which the Imperial Legion have concerns about when facing in battle.

So, I think a warrior with medium armor, Bonemold armor, is better perhaps an Ancient Bonemold Armor set would reflect to what the Chimer once were a proud people and still is.

I like the idea of a Daedra Priest of Old, but the Dwemer spirit would probably be a Dwemer Ghost similiar to the Dwemer Ghost in the Bthungthumz Dwemer ruin.

[dietbob196045]

Sorry for the delay.  I've been playing Star Trek Timelines (free to play on Steam, but if you want to get somewhere in the game then it will cost money) a lot lately.

Well I hope you have enjoyed it   no money   lol  I hate that, you can play but if you want the really good stuff give us money   nope I'm good


The cave looks good, so keep that and it's also a good idea to have a chest for a cave.  But why not have a chest for each HQ location that has an unique item and have all three it will give the player a very useful item.
I also need to point out that looking at a picture for a cave like yours aren't the same thing as test it in-game, so I would like to test that cave perhaps via the console without having a connection from the interior I already tested.

Agreed it does look much better in game !   I'll send it to you........with regards to the chests that was my plan to have unique chests for each of the 3 sections

As for the Chimer spirit, I wouldn't go with a battle mage armor since it is a heavy armor and the Dark Elf's aka Dunmer are known for being a superior swordmen in which the Imperial Legion have concerns about when facing in battle.
So, I think a warrior with medium armor, Bonemold armor, is better perhaps an Ancient Bonemold Armor set would reflect to what the Chimer once were a proud people and still is.

I was going to use bonemold... that's what the Dunmer/Chimer used as far as I know.

I like the idea of a Daedra Priest of Old, but the Dwemer spirit would probably be a Dwemer Ghost similiar to the Dwemer Ghost in the Bthungthumz Dwemer ruin.

Priest it is !   for the Dwemer... I have a Dwemer I made some time ago that I had planned to use in the same fashion as the Chimer  

But I shall continue on.... other then that, for the npc's we just need some dialogue
I haven't made much progress otherwise, had a busy week with family

Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

That's exactly what I had in mind for a Dwemer Ghost.  

Just keep it as it is and don't change it.  

[dietbob196045]

That's exactly what I had in mind for a Dwemer Ghost.  :wibble:

Just keep it as it is and don't change it.  :sheo:

  not even a ghostly effect      lol


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Of course there must be a ghostly effect, otherwise it cannot be an ancient spirit.  

[dietbob196045]

Good Good   I can continue on then and know life has some meaning

And with that, the second area of the Daedric Section is the actual Daedric Section

So the first part (Cave) takes you too the Barrier, past the barrier you enter into this section where you find the "Item"

provided the player has the Dwemer and House Dagoth items they can shuffle off to our yet unknown main chamber

I'll get around to sending these 2 off to you when I get back from family dinner, as is still a few things to clutter it with

Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Sounds good and keep me posted.  

[dietbob196045]

for your viewing please

WIP Daedric Underground Section

1 cell (CS test cell)   3 interiors

If you see any mind blowing obvious errors  let me know   thanks

Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

I assume that archvive is a gamesave.  Correct?  

[dietbob196045]

I assume that archvive is a gamesave.  Correct?  :chinscratch:

Nope...  I took the 3 cells and made a seperate esp, did a quick look in enchanted editor, tesfile'd it and zipped it up
I did it special just for you to have a walkabout, I did however forget to connect the 3 interiors  

hopefully this GPS map helps a bit  (it's really not GPS)


Enjoy
Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Are you saying that I need to load the *.tmp file in EE and save it as an esp?

[dietbob196045]

Are you saying that I need to load the *.tmp file in EE and save it as an esp?

Nope it's already an ESP

it's just zipped as a temp, with all the data files within, I am very confusing sometimes  sorry ....simply it is an esp with 1 interior cell, CS Test Cell  all 3 of the intertior sets are inside the 1 cell, you said you just wanted to coc it, at least that's what I thought you were saying  


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Dietbob

[Leonardo]

Fair enough.  Well, I know how to use the coc command, but without the coordinates or the cell name the coc command doesn't do any good.

Maybe the coe command is better, but it requires the exact coordinates e.g -1, 0 if I am not mistaken.

[dietbob196045]

Fair enough.  Well, I know how to use the coc command, but without the coordinates or the cell name the coc command doesn't do any good.

Maybe the coe command is better, but it requires the exact coordinates e.g -1, 0 if I am not mistaken.

Sorry  I was not with it

OK so the Cell is   _Valenvaryon, CS test cell
                                 x        y       z  
The passage              367, -4278, 12210
The Daedric Cave    2734,  5849, 11362
The Daedric Ruin   -7314,  6511, 13956

Enjoy
Dietbob